tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post5040384259035165432..comments2024-01-22T10:00:14.762-05:00Comments on Not Another Wave: Question of the Week: Should Pornography Be Illegal?Ericahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15249287420418816844noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-43846327608694252632011-11-02T16:51:04.443-04:002011-11-02T16:51:04.443-04:00But we are talking more about the legal side of po...But we are talking more about the legal side of pornography, when the question was "should" it be illegal? We both know there are problems with forcing others to obtain from producing pornographic materials, but help answer this question for me. Without getting into the befuddling questions of who and how, does pornography add so much greatness to society that if it were gone it part orJonathan Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11270105561556129223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-61695453285533625152011-11-02T16:49:43.526-04:002011-11-02T16:49:43.526-04:00"Material (such as writings, photographs, or ..."Material (such as writings, photographs, or movies) depicting sexual activity or erotic behavior in a way that is designed to arouse sexual excitement - Pornography is protected speech under the First Amendment unless it is determined to be legally obscene. (Both child pornography and virtual child pornography are illegal and sanctionable offenses) "<br /><br />I like this definition Jonathan Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11270105561556129223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-780835789310301102011-11-02T16:49:19.913-04:002011-11-02T16:49:19.913-04:00I am sure that there are very healthy relationship...I am sure that there are very healthy relationships with very exotic sex relationships. I am not arguing that people's sexual preferences should be questioned but I am questioning the motives of many people who watch pornography and then establish an unrealistic bar of sexual perfection for their spouse/partner. Those who view sex as a conquest rather than a mutual progression of experience Jonathan Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11270105561556129223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-69716281445155351692011-11-02T16:48:53.034-04:002011-11-02T16:48:53.034-04:00The second reason is this. I don't think that ...The second reason is this. I don't think that a rape culture is desirable. That may be a difference of opinion but I can not think of any classical or modern philosopher that argues a rape culture is beneficial to society as a whole. Perhaps you can enlighten me to the philosophical argument. In that way you are totally correct when you say that my perception of sex is normative. <br /><br />Jonathan Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11270105561556129223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-6370719668605582962011-11-02T16:48:29.373-04:002011-11-02T16:48:29.373-04:00You're the one with the blog, so thanks for ho...You're the one with the blog, so thanks for hosting. <br /><br />First of all. I need to apologize to J for taking so long to respond. I read your response a while ago but have been stuck with very pressing assignments and due dates that I have been able to do little productive outside of education. <br /><br />OK. J. I am pleasantly surprised by your response. You have a much greater Jonathan Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11270105561556129223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-85191096337266876182011-10-27T20:02:19.920-04:002011-10-27T20:02:19.920-04:00J *and* J - I love you two. Seriously, you're ...J *and* J - I love you two. Seriously, you're the best. And I sympathize so much with both your arguments that I must somehow be comprised of two contradictory personalities.Emilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13794894633747852280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-24713375099667747062011-10-27T02:18:27.560-04:002011-10-27T02:18:27.560-04:00Ok. Now I'll move on to the viability of your ...Ok. Now I'll move on to the viability of your definitions for legislation against "Rape Pornography." Critics of rape culture often challenge how people view consent as a clear cut thing. Those critics of rape culture will often point out that the problem with assuming that the absence of a verbal articulation or physical struggle against an aggressor is not the same as consent. Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240627164697020604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-70346555854838002162011-10-27T02:13:42.803-04:002011-10-27T02:13:42.803-04:00Ok J.
First of all, I had to smile when you calle...Ok J.<br /><br />First of all, I had to smile when you called me naive. I get lots of insults thrown my way, but that's not one I can ever remember hearing. I'm usually looked at with sideways glances as people assume my familiarity with all manner of perversions are somehow autobiographically linked to my own debauchery and find resistance to my protestations to the contrary. So thank Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240627164697020604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-77800649949122162882011-10-26T00:52:38.024-04:002011-10-26T00:52:38.024-04:00Ok J.
I am not the most qualified to answer these ...Ok J.<br />I am not the most qualified to answer these questions but here are some simple ideas.<br /><br />We would have to agree that sexual assault, rape, bondage and other such crimes were wrong at the outset because naturally if one does not consider rape a crime than any definition prohibiting its depiction would be moot.<br /><br />Pornography Definitions<br /><br />Rape Pornography<br /><Jonathan Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11270105561556129223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-74821592084158787902011-10-25T20:14:15.277-04:002011-10-25T20:14:15.277-04:00Jonathan, you asserted in both your first and last...Jonathan, you asserted in both your first and last paragraphs that pornography can be defined, but then provided nothing. I'd really like to hear a compelling definition that could be used for legal purposes, so please share if you think you've got one. I ask because I've had these kinds of conversations before and I gave on the possibility that pornography could be made illegal Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240627164697020604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-19784931867218752062011-10-25T19:19:11.267-04:002011-10-25T19:19:11.267-04:00The famous line "I know it when I see it"...The famous line "I know it when I see it" has more to do with a lack of eloquence than it does with a lack of legal mobility for it's definition. There are a lot of things that could be done to define certain pornographic acts as artistic while defining others as oppressive, violent, restrictive to the rights of individuals, etc. <br /><br />I think we could use smoking as a case Jonathan Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11270105561556129223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-89765929105942252332011-10-25T18:04:17.856-04:002011-10-25T18:04:17.856-04:00This Documentary really opened my eyes to the viol...This Documentary really opened my eyes to the violent nature of much of the pornography viewed today, while I definitely don't think that making it illegal is going to do much, I do think that limits on what you can show should be out there. For instance, using rape as a means for sexual arousal shouldn't be used I think, since that does MORE damage to women by increasing the normalcy of Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16595096866339139973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-38202392952220009072011-10-25T15:47:06.205-04:002011-10-25T15:47:06.205-04:00I think with something like child pornography, it ...I think with something like child pornography, it is a bit easier to make illegal because you can argue that depictions of children in states of undress or in potentially sexual poses will be seen as an exploitation of a class of people who are not legally able to consent to using their bodies in that way. <br /><br />If we talk about certain elements within pornography, then we can be specific Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240627164697020604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-6213088470181314312011-10-24T15:14:59.715-04:002011-10-24T15:14:59.715-04:00Jeremy, I think that's a fair enough argument ...Jeremy, I think that's a fair enough argument against trying to outlaw all pornography, but what about more specific types? Child pornography, for instance, is illegal, despite all those same drawbacks to defining pornography. What are your views on codifying "pornography" in order to outlaw it when minors are involved?Emilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13794894633747852280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7980259522701574842.post-78380583168593062011-10-24T13:27:17.328-04:002011-10-24T13:27:17.328-04:00The problem is that it seems impossible to even ad...The problem is that it seems impossible to even advocate for making "pornography" illegal. Establishing a definition for pornography isn't going to happen, and you can't make illegal that which you can't clearly define. <br /><br />How would someone even going about making a case for exactly what material would be illegal? We could go with something like "all visual Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240627164697020604noreply@blogger.com